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Why??? C.B. 2 confused, frustrated by Chin’s exiting push to boost fines for Soho/Noho nonartists

BY DASHIELL ALLEN | Community members and local politicians alike have strong objections to lame-duck Councilmember Margaret Chin’s “11th-hour” bill to increase penalties on nonartist residents of housing units zoned as Joint Live Work Quarters for Artists (J.L.W.Q.A.’s).

The bill, which seemingly appeared out of nowhere on Nov. 8<, one day before an eight-hour-long hearing on the city’s Soho/Noho rezoning proposal, would impose a $15,000 fine on J.L.W.Q.A. residents that lack artist certification from the city’s Department of Cultural Affairs.

They would subsequently pay $1,000 monthly, and “not less than $25,000 for each subsequent offense” — although the 181-word legislation doesn’t attempt to qualify what would constitute a “second offense.”

The city estimates there are more than 1,636 units designated as J.L.W.Q.A., practically all of them in Soho and Noho.

According to Chin’s office, only four or five people across the entire city requested artist certification in the past year. The office doesn’t know how many units are noncompliant with the J.L.W.Q.A. requirement.

Chin’s office has offered contradictory explanations as to the legislation’s intended goals.

“Right now the fine is for $1,250, and that’s why we have multimillion-dollar sales going on, and they’re not contributing back to the community,” Chin said back in November. She said she hoped her bill would “deter some of the sales,” adding that “we do want to preserve some of these J.L.W.Q.A.’s for artists.”

At a heated Community Board 2 meeting last Thursday, Chin’s deputy chief of staff, Kana Ervin, said she wanted the bill to provide “some sort of remediation, whether that be a conversion legally through [the Department of Buildings] or assisting people with being certified so they are conforming with the requirements now.”

In other words, according to Ervin, the bill would incentivize long-term Soho and Noho noncertified-artist residents to become “legal” — either by obtaining an artist certification or by paying a proposed $100-per-square-foot “flip tax” to convert the unit to residential, with the tax revenue going to fund a future “arts fund” for Downtown Manhattan.

But community members voiced a myriad of problems with the proposal. They said the bill doesn’t take into consideration the difficulties involved in obtaining an artist certification or the underlying complications with converting a J.L.W.Q.A. unit to residential use.

“It’s rather putting the horse before the cart,” said Assemblymember Deborah Glick.

“There’s no pathway for people who are living in units that have a nonconforming use, in large part because the definition [of an artist] is out of date,” she said. “One would have hoped that we would have a pathway for changes in the definitions of ‘certified artists’.”

Glick pointed out that the state’s legal definition of “artist” hasn’t been modified since at least the 1980s, and would leave out a large number of community members.

Sean Sweeny, the director of Soho Alliance, slammed the artist-certification process as dysfunctional. He pointed to the cases of two artists he knows who were denied by the city agency — one whose art qualified as “commercial” and not “fine art” and the other because she sold her work through “word of mouth” and “did not participate in the gallery system, and was thus not part of the cool Soho 1970s art “scene.”

The definition of “artist” by the Department of Cultural Affairs (D.C.L.A.) is determined by the state, a fact that appeared to be news to Councilmember Chin when she asked city agency commissioners at the Nov. 9 hearing, “Why aren’t you thinking about expanding the definition of artist?”

Assemblymember Glick said she would “definitely” look into expanding the definition — but  noted that the Assembly isn’t in session until January. And, she added, she hasn’t received any word from city agencies “about what kind of changes they would be comfortable with.”

She said that to put the bill in place before she has a chance to expand the “artist” definition “is inappropriate and damaging to some people who are longtime residents.”

“Yes I could help with that, if anybody had given me any warning,” she said, clearly miffed.

In her defense, Ervin said she was open to modifications to the bill, including allowing it to go into effect after the state’s laws have been changed, and allowing succession rights for the children of certified artists.

She also pointed out that, according to D.C.L.A.’s own guidelines, the certification process is surprisingly simple, and “the longest it would take for an artist to get certified is one to three weeks.”

Anecdotal evidence contradicts that assertion. One community board meeting attendant mentioned that his wife had applied for certification back in June but was still waiting to hear back more than five months later.

D.C.L.A. did not respond to multiple requests for comment from The Village Sun regarding expanding the definition of an artist or the certification process.

Ervin also clarified that, regarding tenants, the $15,000-plus fee should be paid by owners and landlords, not by renters.

In response, Glick said, “If it is an owner who gets the $15,000 fine, that is essentially putting a target on the back of the tenant — and perhaps would be grounds for an eviction.

“I would hope that the plan isn’t to incentivize displacement,” she added.

Ervin made clear that she plans on incorporating community feedback into an amended version of the legislation. But given that Chin leaves office in two weeks, the bill would, if modified, most likely be kicked into the next City Council session.

A representative for Christopher Marte, who is succeeding Chin in the Council, confirmed to The Village Sun that Marte would “definitely scrap [Chin’s bill] altogether and pursue other more reasonable paths to legalization.”

“I feel like I’m a bit in the ‘Twilight Zone’ here,” said C.B. 2 member Carter Booth. “You’re focused on the penalties and not [on] helping people. And nobody to my understanding has reached out to the state electeds to work on this.”

Another board member, John Paul DeVerna, wanted to know what steps had taken previous to the bill “to incentivize people” to get into compliance, before “putting a gun to their heads.” Chin’s staffer had no answer.

In an attempt to ease residents’ concerns about the prospect of paying the high fee, Ervin pointed out that, according to the Department of Buildings, the agency responsible for enforcing noncompliance with the artist-residency requirement, only 12 violations have been recorded in the past decade.

“This law has been on the books for a long time,” she said. “I don’t think [increasing the fine] is equating that there’s going to be more enforcement.”

Ervin implied that enforcement is triggered by multiple 311 calls, which would alert D.O.B. to conduct an inspection.

C.B. 2 member Eugene Yoo presented a slide during the C.B. 2 virtual meeting showing his findings of allegedly “flawed calculations” by the Department of City Planning on apartment sales data for Soho and Noho.

That was also cause for concern for board members, such as Eugene Yoo, who asked if this would prompt “neighbors to snitch on neighbors that they don’t like” by making a phone call.

Yoo also raised concern over the $100-per-square-foot J.L.W.Q.A.-to-residential “flip tax,” saying the figure was based on flawed calculations by the Department of City Planning.

Based on a Freedom of Information request filed on behalf of the board, he determined that D.C.P. arrived at the number after analyzing 10 years of data on Streeteasy, which showed that J.L.W.Q.A. sales brought in on average $100 less per square foot than non-J.L.W.Q.A. sales in the neighborhood.

The assumption by the city is that converting from J.L.W.Q.A. to non-J.L.W.Q.A. — as in, to straight residential use — equates to converting from a lower sales value to a higher sales value, and that therefore it would be fair to expect a contribution from the J.L.W.Q.A. owner.

However, Yoo said, “All they did was look at the gross sales data. When we reclassified the sales, and took out the outliers, we found that the actual medians were much closer.”

Based on his own calculations, there was only a $20 difference between the two types of sales, which, in his opinion, delegitimizes the premise of the flip tax.

Ervin made clear during the C.B. 2 meeting that Councilmember Chin has no intention of withdrawing her legislation, meaning if it has any chance of passing it will go to a vote in the next two weeks.

“There are so many inconsistencies” with the bill, Community Board 2 Chairperson Jeannine Kiely told The Village Sun. “Is the objective to go on a witch hunt” by letting neighbors report each other to 311 “or to incentivize conversion?”

Keily pointed out that many of the objections raised over Chin’s bill are described in detail in section three of the community board’s July resolution opposing the Soho/Noho/Chinatown rezoning.

In response to the bill, C.B. 2 sent a letter to the City Council objecting that the legislation “fails to ensure the promised seamless J.L.W.Q.A.-to-residential conversion,” and “flies in the face of all previous assurances to the Soho Noho community and C.B. 2 that the multiyear engagement process for the rezoning would solve this decades-old problem.”

The board’s letter also detailed 43 questions raised at the board meeting, ranging from “Can you explain why this bill deserves any support from the community?” to “WHY enact this new legislation (and increase enforcement) before there is a pathway to [residential] legalization?” to “EXACTLY WHY was this bill introduced in the heat of the final push on the rezoning?” and, simply, “What is the goal of increasing the fines?”

Ervin, Chin’s chief of staff, did not respond to multiple requests for comment and clarification on any of these questions from The Village Sun for this article.


  1. David Thall David Thall December 8, 2021

    The awful truth:
    The concept that misguided Margaret Chin and the venal real estate paid trolls like LES3025 are incapable of understanding:

    Helping one group of citizens doesn’t mean hurting another.

  2. Robert Lederman Robert Lederman December 8, 2021

    When the ARTIST (Artists’ Response to Illegal State Tactics) group first sued the City over the street artist arrests back in 1994, I and numerous other street artists who lived at the time in SoHo applied for the artist certification. We did it so we would have official recognition as “artists” from an NYC agency, which we assumed would be useful in our lawsuit. The process was very difficult. You had to “prove” you were an artist based on their requirements, which included that you had shows in art galleries and could get gallery owners to write you a letter. Most of the other artist members who applied were rejected, despite having degrees from art schools and earning their living solely from art sales, simply because they had no gallery shows. It was a very unfair system. Needless to say, anyone can be an artist and the vast majority of real artists in the City have never had a gallery show.

  3. Harry Pincus Harry Pincus December 8, 2021

    I’m not asking for anybody to repay the “arts community”.

    That term reminds me of our co-op board president, who is “Executive Director” of something called “New Yorkers for Arts and Culture.” She bought a loft in our building for millions of dollars given to her by her husband, and almost immediately voted to serve me with a Notice to Cure, demanding that I cure the violations in someone else’apartment.

    She has held this threat over my head for four years, through hell and high water, and people like her would represent “the arts community” and get the money. That’s not only a shande, it’s also baloney.

    I am only asking for the original certified artists to be protected from the kind of attacks that my family and I are being subjected to. We have paid our dues!

    • LES3025 LES3025 December 8, 2021

      Fair enough. I think original certified artists should be protected too and I hope this helps with that. I have to imagine there also were certified artists who would have liked to live in SoHo over the years but could not because the millionaires and real estate speculators had grabbed up so many of the JLWQA apartments, made it too expensive, and refused to rent to certified artists. I saw the fund as a possible way to help people like that, not people like your co-op board president.

  4. Harry Pincus Harry Pincus December 8, 2021

    These days I have to describe myself as the last certified A.I.R. living in a JLWQA building, because, after 47 years, I am being sued and harassed by the wealthy nonartists who arrived in our co-op with millions of dollars, and are only interested in millions of dollars. No one asked if they were artists, as required by the C of O and now these people are trying to evict the only artist, and the original tenant.

    It is not my intention to penalize anyone who did not receive certification as an Artist, but Artists earn less than other professionals, and need the protections that were originally intended by the loft laws and the Joint Living Work Quarters for Artists provisions.

    I have devoted my life to art, and to raising a family, and yet, in my seventieth year, I was recently told by a multimillionaire real estate speculator that we will “soon be out on the street.” He says he wants to push out “the poorer ones” and “take over the building.”

    I am being sued in Federal court by the lawyer son of the owner of an admittedly illegal apartment next door, which is being sublet for thousands of dollars a month, in spite of fifteen open violations. This Westchester attorney is using a deficient C of O from 1976, filed when I was out of the country, and when his mother was president of the co-op board, to claim that I am a “tenant in common” with his mother, who, along with her son, owns millions of dollars of property and lives in Canada. The son is demanding in the Southern District of New York that I be ordered to sell our only home at Public Auction!

    The corruption and dishonesty that have grown out of the inflated real estate values is astounding, and it threatens everyone who wants to live a decent and honest life here.

    I never thought I would thank Margret Chin, but if she is recognizing our plight, and trying to help us, a thank you is well earned.

    • LES3025 LES3025 December 8, 2021

      Harry, I know that we haven’t always seen eye-to-eye in these comments here, but I agree with you 100%. It’s a shande that millionaires and real estate speculators have been allowed to take and drive up the price of housing that was supposed to be reserved for artists. It seems like paying the fines and flip tax into a fund for artists, like Chin is proposing, is the least they can do to repay the arts community for what they took over all these years.

      • David Thall David Thall December 8, 2021

        You troll like a self-entitled child whose entire concept of the adult world of homeownership is based on your personal resentments and an obsession with endlessly posting vindictive petulance – that since you can’t afford to live in SoHo, nobody should.

        Your jealousy and hatred of longtime SoHo homeowners – pushing for punitive new taxes targeting them so they can’t afford to live in their homes anymore – is consistent with all the other outlying predator PR you post.

        Here’s what you are incapable of comprehending:

        “Our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can’t help them, at least don’t hurt them” – Dalai Lama

  5. Taking it on the Chin Taking it on the Chin December 7, 2021

    “D.C.L.A. did not respond to multiple requests for comment from The Village Sun.”

    “Ervin, Chin’s chief of staff, did not respond to multiple requests for comment and clarification on any of these questions from The Village Sun for this article”

    What are these agencies and staffers doing to earn their salary? What a joke! Or they can’t answer these simple questions and do not want to admit it?

    Chin did not attend, not even via Zoom, not having the courage or decency to face her constituents, instead sacrificing her staffer, Ms. Ervin, to take the hits.

    Meanwhile, Chin gives over $30 million in Council money to MOCA, the Museum of Chinese in America, located in Chinatown, at the same time she hits SoHo residents with insane fines and flip taxes.

    Racist much, Ms. Chin?

  6. LES3025 LES3025 December 7, 2021

    Question for the writer, do any of the people quoted here vigorously opposing the flip tax live illegally in JLWQA housing? It seems relevant to know whether they are opposing it because of their personal financial interests. Should be easy to figure out (at least for owners) based on ACRIS and ZoLa records.

    The part about JLWQA and non-JLWQA prices not being that different seems right to me, but that only supports the flip tax even more. There hasn’t been any enforcement of those laws, so there is no reason an illegal purchaser of a JLWQA apartment would pay much less. The justification for the flip tax is that these people decided that the zoning laws didn’t apply to them and have benefitted greatly from the restrictive zoning that applies to everyone else. Their apartments are worth much more as a result. It is fair that they pay a small monthly fine to continue living there and pay the small flip tax when selling to a nonartist in the future. It’s basically amnesty, on very reasonable terms.

    If there are some people who were wrongfully denied artist certification, I’m fine with a provision to protect them. But I’d wager anything that most of the illegal JLWQA owner-residents do not fall into this category.

    • David Thall David Thall December 8, 2021

      You post like a classic Facebook troll – masquerading as an aggressive real estate PR propagandist – full of self-entitlement, petulance and venality. You spend your entire day anonymously dumping misinformation on local news sites, with an endless tsunami of pent-up personal resentment for one purpose and one purpose only:

      To hurt others.

      You derive so much glee from attacking Soho homeowners, it’s more than just an obsession, it’s an addiction.

      Your hatred for longstanding SoHo homeowners must be because you aren’t one?

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