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Hoylman floats idea for ‘anti-vax tax’

BY LINCOLN ANDERSON | Refuse to get the jab? The taxman could stick it to you in your wallet.

That’s an idea currently being kicked around on social media by state Senator Brad Hoylman.

“I’m putting it on social media just to gauge the reaction,” Hoylman told The Village Sun.

Hoylman has written up language for a bill and actually posted it on Twitter. But the bill has not introduced in the state Senate.

“We proposed a 1 percent tax for incomes over $50,000,” he noted.

Basically, Hoylman said that, given the amount of public dollars “going down the drain” to combat COVID due to people refusing to get vaccinated, plus the long-range concerns about the virus’s trajectory, a tax could well be the right thing to do.

While the vaccination rate is high in New York City, it’s low in Western New York and Upstate, where the number of cases is rising, he noted, adding that’s why a “carrot and stick” approach may be needed. He said the dichotomy on the issue between city residents and those in the rest of the state is “not surprising.”

“What’s the responsible thing to do here?” Hoylman asked. “I would say it’s mandates. But, at some point, I would say it’s a fee or tax to get the free riders onboard. They’re free riders because they’re not taking the responsible approach to help protect others.”

He said he also objects to the idea of “forking over tax dollars just to get people to do the right thing,” such as New York City has done by giving people $100, free tickets and memberships just to get the free shots and overcome their vaccine resistance and hesitancy.

“Where’s the [personal] responsibility?” he asked in frustration.

Hoylman said those who refuse the vaccine are putting others — like the immunocompromised, the elderly and ineligible individuals, like young kids — at risk.

“My daughter is four,” said the pol, who lives in Greenwich Village. “They’re putting my daughter and other New Yorkers at risk because of their selfishness.”

Young children are admittedly less susceptible to the virus, though Hoylman noted, “but that’s for now. What about a variant that affects young children?”

Hoylman is proudly pro-vaccine. In fact, it was his legislation that authorized New York pharmacies to administer COVID shots. He also sponsored the legislation that ended religious / nonmedical exemptions for vaccines for schoolchildren. In response, he faced a challenge from a vaccine foe in his most recent state Senate election.

“I’ve been a champion of vaccine science in public policy throughout my career,” he proudly said.

He said a big concern, especially now with the cold weather coming on, is that the unvaccinated will become incubators for new variants of COVID, some of which could potentially even be vaccine-resistant.

“What really is the nightmare scenario is a deadly new variant somehow getting a foothold among the unvaccinated…that might put at risk the elderly and those with preexisting conditions,” he warned. “We have no idea how this virus will turn. What we don’t know [about COVID] seems to be the operating principle.”

As for the psychology of those individuals — like Packers quarterback Aaron Rogers or some Big Apple firefighters — who stubbornly refuse the jab, Hoylman scoffed, “It’s really rooted in selfishness. I think it’s classic selfishness and, frankly, ignorance.”

To those who argue that “natural immunity” is better than a double dose of Moderna or Pfizer, the state senator countered, “Natural immunity could be a death sentence to many New Yorkers, particularly the elderly and very young.”

The politician said he understands the lack of trust in some communities due to unethical drug trials that occurred in the past. One of the most notorious was the Tuskegee study of Black men with untreated syphilis.

“But there’s a large percentage that are just sticking their heads in the sand and making us do the job for them,” he said of others who snub the vaccine.

Again, Hoylman explained of his anti-vax tax idea, “This is a theoretical proposal. I was trying to spark a conversation about how we can do better.”

Meanwhile, the health crisis, on the other hand, continues to be very real.

“With Thanksgiving coming, could there be a holiday variant that emerges?” he asked. “We just don’t know.

At the same time, he added that using social media to test public reaction to his proposal does have its drawbacks.

“In one way, social media is not the best way to gauge this because you have a lot of wingnuts in the anti-vax community [on social media],” he said. And yet, at the same time, he said, “Social media also can smoke out the wingnuts.”

Speaking of which, Hoylman considers Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., to be one, and a dangerous one, at that.

“Look, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is still on Twitter — and why?” he asked, noting he sent a letter to Twitter C.E.O. Jack Dorsey demanding the prominent anti-vaxxer be blocked.

“He continues to tweet misinformation about COVID vaccines and all vaccines,” Hoylman fumed of RFK Jr. “He is a dangerous individual who has stoked [fears] and is confusing the public. If Donald Trump is removed from Twitter, frankly, Robert F. Kennedy should be. I don’t know how he lives with himself. Children’s Health Defense should be shut down.”

Children’s Health Defense is an activist anti-vaccination group founded by R.F.K. Jr.

“We tax a lot of sin products,” Hoylman added, “cigarettes, alcohol, gambling. Some states tax sugary sodas. We should look at taxes and fees that protect the public. That’s one of the tools in our toolkit.”

Hoylman said he had his counsel draft language for an anti-vax tax bill “to make it less theoretical. I would call it a conversation piece right now,” he reiterated. “We’ve been kicking it around for a while. Rather than introducing a bill, we thought this would spark a conversation.”

As for coming right out and calling it an “anti-vax tax,” Hoylman said there’s no point in beating around the bush. Vaccine opponents prefer more innocuous-sounding descriptions of themselves, like “pro-health choice.”

“‘Anti-vax tax,’ why mince words?” Hoylman shrugged.

He noted that, for his views, the vaccine foes have threatened and tried to bully him and have bombarded him with “wild conspiracy theories.”

“These people are not wedded to reality,” he said. “Some of them are the same people who still believe President Trump will be reinstated by the end of the year. You can’t make it up. They believe that John F. Kennedy Jr. is going to reappear. Unfortunately, this is our reality in public discussion.

“I think New Yorkers are fed up,” he said. “It’s past time for [unvaccinated] New Yorkers to walk into the pharmacy and get that jab.

“Look, I’m not a doctor,” Hoylman said. “But, that said, I know an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.”

9 Comments

  1. kathleen berger kathleen berger November 23, 2021

    The so-called “sin” taxes are now on cigarettes and alcohol. It seems to me that it is a much worse sin to put the health of other people in danger. So I support the anti-vax tax and am proud that our own Village Senator thought of it. Keen

  2. Robert Lederman Robert Lederman November 23, 2021

    Here’s my reaction, as requested by Mr. Hoylman. Hoylman seems to really enjoy offering bad ideas. He doesn’t, as is his right, simply dissagree with those who oppose the vaccine, he wants them taxed, fined, marginalized, punished and canceled. He really wants us to know just how far he’s willing to go to oppress anyone who won’t fall in line with the pharma-order of the day. Can you imagine the outrage by Hoylman if another politician suggested taxing and targetting a minority for their beliefs? He’s not a doctor, but he gives out a lot of pseudo-medical “information,” like you might get from a pharmaceutical company press release. Many of his suggestions, in general, seem to be far outside what is considered constitutional. Holyman’s latest “idea” is bullying, on the verge of a police-state tactic of coercion and oppression. What purpose exactly was he elected to fullfill? Is he supposed to be a liberal?

    • Carol Yost Carol Yost November 24, 2021

      You’re anti-vaccine and uninformed. Just get the facts, will you? You’re not even clear in what you’re saying. I don’t want my life threatened by unvaccinated people who catch the virus and spread it. You could die from this, and take others with you. I’ve had my two vaccines and I’ll get the booster on December 7th. I’m immunocompromised.

  3. Robert Lederman Robert Lederman November 24, 2021

    The American Heart Association Journal, Circulation, has just published an abstract on mRNA COVID-19 shots, demonstrating that they dramatically Increase Endothelial Inflammatory Markers and ACS Risk as Measured by the PULS Cardiac Test: a Warning
    https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712
    What does vaccine advocate Dr Hoylman have to say about that?

    • Lily Carver Lily Carver November 24, 2021

      Perhaps what ACTUAL doctors say. Covid vaccines have some side effects and for a VERY SMALL number of people MRNA vaccines can cause heart issues but the risk is FAR higher of getting very sick or DYING from Covid if you are NOT vaccinated. The study you quote is for people with pre-existing heart conditions and if their doctors feel MRNA vaccines are a risk they can take J&J which does not have that issue. You are the one playing quack doctor and leaving us all at greater risk

      • Robert Lederman Robert Lederman November 24, 2021

        Thousands of actual doctors refuse to take the vaccine. Are they all misinformed too?

  4. Chris Flash Chris Flash November 24, 2021

    THANK YOU Robert Lederman! You have always been a voice of reason and sanity in this increasingly INSANE city.

    It really blows my mind that those who have been terrorized into submission, complying with ever-changing and contradictory edicts and mandates of the state have been ATTACKING those of us who are not afraid and who DARE to question.

    Creepy career opportunistic politicians like Hoylman are not interested in serving their constituents by doing something MEANINGFUL to HELP or IMPROVE their lives. They simply see the “covid” scare as an opportunity to increase the power of the state and to increase revenue.

    WHO THE HELL elected you to do THAT, Brad??

    How about serving your constituents by preserving TRULY affordable housing, stemming the rate of gentrification in our city by restricting zoning, creating historic districts and preventing tax subsidies and abatements for developers of “luxury” housing, making certain that the elderly are provided for, assisting mom + pop businesses with a form of commercial rent control, and scores of other things that you were elected to do??

    WHAT THE HELL have you done in ANY of those areas, Brad??

    Will empowering the state to impose a tax on us make ANY virus go away? No, but I would GLADLY pay a tax to make fascist politicians like Hoylman GO AWAY!!

    • Robert Lederman Robert Lederman November 24, 2021

      Thanks for your comment, Chris.

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